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Swim bladder issue?

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By paleblue, Section Diaries
Posted on Wed Jul 30, 2008 at 12:53:18 PM PST
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Ever since I converted my tank from gravel to sand, one of my guppies has been acting oddly. I suspect I injured her when I moved her (and the other two guppies) to a temporary container. I moved them because they were freaking out as I removed the gravel.



When I put her back in the tank, I noticed that she had a bit of red on her back. Ever since then, she's been struggling to get to the top of the tank, and tends to rest on top of plants and the heater. Her eyes are big and black. Is there anything I can do for her? Do swim bladders heal?

On a related note, shortly after moving the guppies back, I found one dead in an ornament. I think she got herself caught, and panicked. I'm not feeling like a good fishkeeper.

The only fish currently in the tank are 2 female guppies and 1 3-inch Raphael catfish. The other night I found the injured guppy in the cave with the Raphael, so I don't think he's hassling her.

I've tested my water, everything's fine. No ammonia, nitrates (or is it nitrites?) at 20.

P.S.-- be gentle. I'm a noob.

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Re: Swim bladder issue? (none / 0) (#1)
by New Guppy Momma on Wed Jul 30, 2008 at 05:37:01 PM PST

Your assumption on the one dead guppy is probably correct.
The one that is currently hanging out around the top wouldn't by any chance happen to have a big round belly with a large dark "gravid" spot? I suspect she might be heavily pregnant (which is a fact of life for a female guppy). No need to worry about a "virgin" birth tho. Female guppy's can have fry every month for up to around 6 months from just a single encounter with a male.

Or she could just have been stressed out a bit. I have found that a partial water change (at least 25%) and the addition of aquarium salt (I use a tablespoon per 5 gallons) to act as a tonic (stimulates slime coat and helps heal their skin) perks ailing fish up a bit.

Good Luck on your sick fish.
Before all else fails....do a 25% water change ;)



Re: Swim bladder issue? (none / 0) (#2)
by paleblue on Thu Jul 31, 2008 at 05:23:16 AM PST

I lost her last night. I found her in the cave with the catfish, but she wasn't chewed upon, so it was sort of sweet. It's a bit of a relief to not worry about her anymore, but I really wish she'd pulled through. She was my favorite guppy.

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Were any scales turned out? That is sometimes (none / 0) (#3)
by unclescott on Fri Aug 01, 2008 at 02:01:37 PM PST

just a sign of old age but that can also be a sign of dirty water and internal bacterial infections or stress. See dropsy in Immediate Help (click the link to the upper left).

Next time you redecorate a tank, take the top 2/3s of the water out along with the fish. A lot of organic garbage gets stuck in the gravel and while that may be good for plants (in moderation) it can be very dangerous for the fish.

Fish have pretty much the same internal bones in their ear structure that we do. Obviously they don't have ear lobes, but water transmits sound very well. Their air bladder and whole structure is designed to pick up sound. Fish with lateral lines are even more sensitive. You may have been clobbering them with the noise.

Aside from the considerable danger to kids for banging upon aquariums, that is another strong reason for them not to tap on tanks. Probably somebody I know has asked them how much they would like a person tapping on their ears with a baseball bat. ;)

You will not likely get such a concentration of dirt in the sand as with gravel, though anaerobic spots can develop unless you have fish or snails which frequent the sand and stir it some. Siphoning off of sand is a little trickier than off of gravel. Run the waste water into a clean bucket dedicated to things fishy. (You probably knew this - in that case this is for someone reading along.) Then the waste water can be poured off, the sand rinsed and returned - as opposed to plugging a drain. :)

Some species are more comfortable with sand, though not necessarily your species. Some rooted plants have difficulty living in sand. Java fern on top of the sand and floating plants would do fine. If your tank can remain clean, your fish are healthy and you like the attractiveness of the sand, go for it. :)

Assuming the correctness of your water parameters, you are due (soon) for a partial change because of the 20 PPM nitrates. I get nitrates and nitrites confused too. :( Were you able to keep a box or sponge filter wet, so it could import the nitrogen cycle to the new set-up?

With that raphael catfish, do you get any guppy fry? How long have you had the guppies? Will adult guppies be safe with it when it grows up?

Do you have a cave (or chemical free flowerpot resting on its side) for the catfish? In cooler weather, it or the guppies could get burned resting on or by the heater.

Hope the new decor works out well!

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Re: Were any scales turned out? That is sometimes (none / 0) (#4)
by paleblue on Sun Aug 03, 2008 at 05:32:33 PM PST

If anything, she was smaller than usual.

I kept the box filter wet, and have some of the old gravel in the tank in a foot of pantyhose.

With the catfish: I've only found 1 fry since getting him, so either he (or the other guppies) found the rest, or there weren't any more. I'm betting on the former. I've had the guppies about 2 months, the catfish about 2 weeks. The catfish seems happier with the sand-- he's hollowed out a cave underneath the wood I put in there for him.

I've researched striped Raphael catfishes a bit, and don't believe he'll bother the adults when he grows up. If I he does, well, I'm not afraid of having multiple tanks.

I doubt the place will get too cold in the winter-- both I and my roommate like the place warm, and heat's included in the rent.

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